Thee They Thy

Judith Berkson, Trevor Dunn, Gerald Cleaver

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After Oylam (2010), Judith Berkson, mezzo-soprano, pianist, composer and improviser, returns with another unclassifiable, and strangely compelling, artistic statement. On Thee They Thy, she leads a trio with Trevor Dunn and Gerald Cleaver through a radically changing programme addressing new settings for prayer (Berkson is also a cantor), original songs, vocal experimentation, improvised piano and more. “I view the pieces on this recording as a natural extension of my solo work,” says Judith Berkson. “This idea of songs that are quite intimate and personal, informed by jazz with pockets of improvisation but also drawing from song and avant-garde traditions in their harmonic and melodic material, embracing elements of minimalism and even conceptual art.” Thee They Thy was recorded at Oktavaen Audio Studio, Mt Vernon, New York. The album was produced by Manfred Eicher.
Nach Oylam (2010) kehrt Mezzosopranistin, Pianistin, Komponistin und Improvisatorin Judith Berkson mit einem weiteren unkategorisierbaren und auf eigenständigste Weise fesselnden künstlerischen Epos zurück. Auf Thee They Thy führt sie ein Trio mit Trevor Dunn und Gerald Cleaver durch ein radikal wechselndes Programm, das sich neuen Vertonungen von Gebetsgesängen widmet (Berkson ist auch Kantorin), ebenso wie eigenen Stücken, vokalen Experimenten, improvisiertem Triozusammenspiel und weitere idiomatische Brücken schlägt. „Ich betrachte die Stücke dieser Aufnahme als eine natürliche Erweiterung meiner Solowerke“, meint Judith Berkson. „Diese Idee von Liedern, die sehr intim und persönlich sind, vom Jazz geprägt mit Improvisationsinseln, zugleich aber in ihrem harmonischen und melodischen Material aus der Liedtradition und der Avantgarde schöpfen und Elemente des Minimalismus und sogar der Konzeptkunst aufnehmen.“ Thee They Thy wurde in den Oktaven Audio Studios in Mount Vernon, New York, aufgenommen. Das Album wurde von Manfred Eicher produziert.
Featured Artists Recorded

July 2021, Oktaven Audio, Mount Vernon, NY

Original Release Date

10.04.2026

  • 1Slow
    (Judith Berkson)
    03:25
  • 2V'shamru
    (Judith Berkson, Traditional)
    04:16
  • 3Torque
    (Judith Berkson)
    08:37
  • 4Dust
    (Judith Berkson)
    02:17
  • 5Cleav
    (Gerald Cleaver)
    02:47
  • 6Notice
    (Judith Berkson)
    03:30
  • 7Thee They Thy
    (Judith Berkson)
    06:27
  • 8Amerika
    (Judith Berkson)
    07:25
  • 9Slowly Walk Into It
    (Judith Berkson)
    04:51
  • 10Sated
    (Judith Berkson)
    04:08
A strangely compelling and often beautiful album from pianist and vocalist Berkson. It has been nearly 16 years since her ECM debut ‘Oylam’, a solo recording on which Berkson was featured on a variety of keyboards including Hammond, Wurlitzer and Fender Rhodes and voice. Feeling that the possibility of a trio album would bring out new facets of both her playing and songwriting, Judith Berkson sought out those who she felt might be the ‘right people’ to bring her concept to fruition. In bassist Trevor Dunn and drummer Gerald Cleaver she does indeed seem to have found the right people, and the trio knit together in a remarkable manner giving the often quirky and ambiguous nature of the compositions. […] but it is how the trio interact with each other and the original pieces by Berkson where the real meat and drink of the album are found. Berkson is a fearless composer and improviser who is not afraid to incorporate jazz, minimalism, avant garde, cantorial composition and through composed pieces that all have her own idiosyncratic style embedded within. […] Berkson sees the trio as a natural extension of her earlier solo recording for ECM and listening to both once again it is difficult to dispute this statement. As with ‘Oylam’, this is music that lives and breathes with you, and for the patient listener will reveal more and continue to delight with each new hearing.
Nick Lea, Jazz Views
 
It’s an intriguing, often compelling listen – one that resists easy categorisation, drawing equally from jazz, song tradition, and the avant-garde. At times, it even evokes the more exploratory singer-songwriters of the 1970s, yet Berkson’s voice remains distinctly her own. Following the conceptual groundwork laid by her earlier album ‘Oylam’, Berkson expands her idiosyncratic approach into a trio setting with Trevor Dunn on double bass and Gerald Cleaver on drums. The result is a fluid, shape-shifting programme where composed material, improvisation, and vocal experimentation coexist in uneasy but fascinating balance. […] Improvisation plays a central role throughout. ‘Torque’ hints at serial techniques while remaining intuitive rather than academic, and the title track feels like a playful deconstruction of jazz vocalising, blurring the line between homage and parody. There’s a postmodern sensibility at work here – ideas are referenced, displaced, and reassembled – but never with cold detachment. Instead, there’s a palpable sense of risk, even vulnerability. […] Perhaps the most striking departure comes with ‘V’shamru’, where Berkson draws on her experience as a cantor. The piece carries a raw emotional weight, her voice soaring over the trio’s sensitive accompaniment, and stands out as one of the album’s most immediate and affecting tracks.
Mike Gates, UK Vibe
 
From ‘Torque’s avant-garde shifts to ‘Thee They Thy’s spiky staccato and jerky vamps and ‘Amerika’s pensive Satie-like introspection, Berkson’s creations are highly unconventional, distinguished by her pliant, resonant voice and inimitable command of tone.
Andy Cowan, Mojo
 
Il resto del cd sfida ogni classificazione, oscillando tra minimalismo vocale, canto devozionale, sperimentazione microtonale, parodia dello scat e intenzione radicale. Così ciò che colpisce davvero è la coerenza emotiva del progetto, che, nonostante la complessità, mantiene una tensione interna che non si spezza mai e un senso di bellezza che non si lascia afferrare. È come seguire un sottilissimo filo di Arianna attraverso il labirinto del suono/rumore quotidiano: non sai dove ti porterà, ma senti che non si interromperà.
Raffaello Carabini, Spettakolo
 
‘Slow’ fait pénétrer en douceur dans son univers assume de la dissonance entre les longues notes tenues à la voix et l’harmonie qui les soutient, communicant une sensation de gêne accrue par le mélange de tension et de fragilité  émanant de l’intonation elle-même. ‘I Notice’ installe lentement – puis fait disparaître – la réitération hypnotique de trois syllabes du titre sur un même intervalle, dans un environnement perturbé enflant graduellement avant de s’évanouir.  On s’amuse enfin beaucoup de la mise en pièces collective de la ligne vocale percussive qui sert de matériau à la pièce ‘Thee They Thy’. À découvrir assurément.
Vincent Cotro, Jazz Magazine
 
Emana una straniante quanto irresistibile malia l’universo poetico di Judith Berkson. (…) Pur formando sulla carta un gruppo classico, il piano trio jazz di ‚Thee They Thy‘ eccede le convenzioni del format: e questo perché [ perché] i musicisti coinvolti – in primo luogo la compositrice di Boston, che non dà mai nulla per scontato – si muovono senza alcuna inibizione, intenzionati a scardinare certezze e luoghi comuni. A catturare l’attenzione sono sia il pianismo astratto sia il magnifico timbro da mezzo soprano di Judith, tra Cathy Berberian (per esempio in Torque, dove emergono echi dodecafonici), Chava Alberstein e la tradizione ebraica (si ascolti l’epica V ’shamru, sostenuta dal contrabbasso di Dunn suonato con l’archetto).
Ivo Franchi, Musica Jazz
 
Jazzgesang mit Hoch- und Tiefgang, dazu freitonale Pianoklänge – dies ist verkörpert in der US-Amerikanerin Judith Berkson. Schon die Eröffnungsnummer lässt erahnen, dass eine Reise in tiefgründige, intime Strukturen bevorsteht. Wenn dann auch noch so kongeniale Partner wie Trevor Dunn am Kontrabass, mit dem sie zum ersten Mal zusammenspielt, und Gerald Cleaver am Schlagzeug zur Seite stehen, kann es sein, dass mit Reduktion und Elementen des Minimalismus Konzeptkunst in Perfektion dargestellt wird. […] Gerald Cleaver gibt ein subtiles, auf die geamte Dynamik der Aufnahme abgestimmtes Solo in ‘Cleav’, und Trevor Dunn spielt auf ‘Amerika’ ein besonders ergreifendes Bass-Solo. Ich habe jedenfalls schon lange  keine bessere, in der Avantgarde bzw. der experimentellen Musik angesiedelte Trioaufnahme mehr gehört.  
Arnold Loimer, Concerto
Judith Berkson, mezzo-soprano, pianist, composer and improviser returns on ECM with a compelling new album. “I view the pieces on this recording as a natural extension of my solo work,” says Judith Berkson. “This idea of songs that are quite intimate and personal, informed by jazz with pockets of improvisation but also drawing from song traditions, and avant-garde traditions in their harmonic and melodic material, embracing elements of minimalism and even conceptual art.” The 2010 album Oylam documented Berkson’s creation of her own vocal language and approach to songwriting and the idiosyncratic keyboard accompaniment to support these elements: “I worked on that concept for years.” The logical next step was to develop those ideas in a group context. “Certainly I’m tipping my hat to the classic jazz trio with piano, drums and bass. I thought that would be fun, if I had the right people.”
 
The right people turned out to be the drummer Gerald Cleaver, with whom Berkson has played on many occasions over the years, and bassist Trevor Dunn, with whom she had not worked previously. They share with Berkson an aversion to limiting their creativity to a single musical idiom. On Thee They Thy, she leads them through a swiftly changing programme with original songs, vocal experimentation, total improvisation, a new setting for prayer and more.  As the Wall Street Journal has noted, still “more remarkable than the range of genres is Ms. Berkson’s mastery of them and her ability to weave them into a seamless program. … revealing the connections between seemingly divergent paths.”
 
Of the album’s ten pieces, the opener, “Slow”, and the closing “Sated” are through-composed songs, as is “Dust”, near the centre of the programme. Much information is condensed in their spare forms. “Dust’s” ultra-minimal four note melody is “sustained over chord changes which come out of 19th century harmony fused with jazz…” "Slowly Walk Into It", meanwhile, was created in the moment. Spontaneous composition, with both words and music unleashed stream-of-consciousness style, is one strand of Judith Berkson’s recent work. Heightened risk and heightened vulnerability belong to the endeavour.
 
Improvisation in "Torque" is sparked by 12-tone rows, Berkson intuitively “referencing ideas, or sampling them with homage and love, but placing them out of context and juxtaposing concepts, eras and genres.” Likewise, "Thee They Thy", like a dreamworld scat song, was conceived by its composer as “a playful send-up of atonal vocal lines and jazz.” An element of post-modern distancing is at work, and a sense of minimalism “that keeps it from being necessarily either of those things.”
 
Midway through the album Gerald Cleaver delivers a subtle piece of music for solo drums. One of the great contemporary percussionists, on “Cleav” he gives us intimate, rippling drum music, geared to the dynamics of the project, exploring texture and timbre.
 
 On “Notice” a minimalistically-repeated vocal utterance is gradually overwhelmed by surging piano trio playing.  And all three musicians have space to stretch out on the instrumental “Amerika”, with Trevor Dunn delivering a particularly poignant solo statement.
 
Berkson performing cantorial music is something else again.  Listeners who responded to the emotional intensity of “Ahavas Oylam” on her last ECM release will be moved by the powerful “V’shamru” here. Judith: “I wanted to include an original cantorial piece as part of the album. It’s been important. Why not have these pieces sit side by side? If not now, when?” Beneath Berkson’s electrifying vocal, Cleaver’s percussion and Dunn’s bass further stir the emotions and colour the music with great sensitivity.
 
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Judith Berkson studied voice with Lucy Shelton and composition with Joe Maneri at the New England Conservatory.
 
Active on multiple artistic fronts, from solo performance and electroacoustic music to operatic works, she composed music for the film Christopher at Sea (2022), which premiered at Sundance and the Venice Biennale, and won awards at SXSW and at Outfest LA. Her chamber opera Partial Memories premiered at the NODO Festival in Ostrava, in the Czech Republic. It was dedicated to forgotten female artists Janet Sobel and Mary Gartside and featured the Ostravská Banda.
 
Judith is also a cantor and officiates traditional liturgical chanting. She has collaborated on Yiddish and cantorial music with Frank London, Theodore Bikel, and the Kronos Quartet.  She lives in Los Angeles, and teaches at California Institute of the Arts.
 
Gerald Cleaver first appeared on ECM as a member of Roscoe Mitchell’s Note Factory on Nine To Get Ready in 1999, followed by recordings with Craig Taborn, Michael Formanek, Tomasz Stanko, Miroslav Vitous, Giovanni Guidi, Joe Lovano and Enrico Rava.
 
Trevor Dunn makes his first ECM appearance with Thee They Thy.  His far-reaching discography includes work with experimental rock band Mr Bungle, numerous albums with John Zorn, recordings with his own group Trio-Convulsant, and more.
 
Thee They Thy was recorded in July 2021 at Oktaven Audio Studio, Mt Vernon, New York. The album was produced by Manfred Eicher.