What was said

Tord Gustavsen, Simin Tander, Jarle Vespestad

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What was said brings new colours to Tord Gustavsen’s musical palette. His latest trio project builds upon the subtle understanding of his long musical association with drummer Jarle Vespestad, introduces the entrancing Afghan-German vocalist Simin Tander, and explores the tradition of Norwegian church music in a most untraditional way: “For the repertoire of the new project, Simin and I have been working with an Afghan poet, translating and shaping a selection of hymns that I grew up with in Norway into Pashto,” Gustavsen explains. “This process has been challenging and really fruitful. We have gone quite far in interpreting the lyrics in a more ‘integral’ manner, reaching into a space where I feel that Sufism and Christianity actually meet, along with other contemplative traditions. The Norwegian hymns are my ‘standards’ – reaching deeper down in my musical and spiritual being than the typical jazz canon. The sound and feel of the Norwegian hymns in Pashto is truly captivating.” Simin Tander also sings, in English, verse of Persian mystic Jalaluddin Rumi (1207-73) and US proto-Beat poet Kenneth Rexroth (1905-82).  As a pure play of sounds, too, the combination of Tander’s voice and Gustavsen’s piano and discreet electronics has an emotional persuasiveness of its own, outside the limits of language. The Gustavsen/Tander/Vespestad trio takes its programme of “hymns and visions” to the concert halls and clubs of Europe in the first months of 2016.
What was said was recorded at Oslo’s Rainbow Studio in April 2015 and produced by Manfred Eicher.
Mit What was said erweitert Tord Gustavsen einmal mehr sein Spektrum musikalischer Klangfarben. Sein neustes Trio-Projekt baut auf dem langjährigen, musikalisch fruchtbaren Austausch mit dem Schlagzeuger Jarle Vespestad auf und stellt gleichzeitig die bezaubernde deutsch-afghanische Sängerin Simin Tander vor. Gemeinsam erkunden sie die Tradition norwegischer Kirchenmusik auf sehr unorthodoxe Weise: „Für das Repertoire dieses neuen Projekts haben Simin und ich mit einem afghanischen Dichter/Lyriker zusammengearbeitet. Gemeinsam übersetzten und formten wir eine Reihe norwegischer Hymnen, mit denen ich in Norwegen aufwuchs, ins Paschtu“, erklärt Gustavsen. „Dieser Prozess war genauso herausfordernd wie fruchtbar. Wir haben uns stark darauf konzentriert, die Texte in einem ganzheitlichen Sinne zu interpretieren und sind in einem Bereich gelandet, wo ich das Gefühl habe, dass Sufismus und Christentum zusammenkommen, gemeinsam mit anderen kontemplativen Traditionen. Die norwegischen Hymnen sind meine ‚Standards‘ – sie haben viel größeren Einfluss auf mein spirituelles und musikalisches Dasein als der typische Jazzkanon. Klang und Stimmung der norwegischen Hymnen in Paschtu sind wahrlich fesselnd.“ Simin Tander singt außerdem Verse des persischen Mystikers Jalaluddin Rumi (1207-73) und des US-amerikanischen Proto-Beat Lyrikers Kenneth Rexroth (1905-82) in englischer Sprache. Auch als reines Zusammenspiel von Klängen besitzt die Kombination von Tanders Stimme und Gustavsens Klavierspiel, gepaart mit diskreten Elektronikklängen eine ganz eigene emotionale Überzeugungskraft – fernab der Beschränkungen des rein sprachlichen Ausdrucks. In den ersten Monaten des Jahres 2016 trägt das Gustavsen/Tander/Vespestad-Trio sein Programm der „Hymnen und Visionen“ in die Konzertsäle und Clubs Europas.
What was said wurde im April 2015 im Rainbow Studio in Oslo aufgenommen und von Manfred Eicher produziert.
Featured Artists Recorded

April 2015, Rainbow Studio, Oslo

Original Release Date

29.01.2016

  • 1Your Grief
    (Tord Gustavsen, Jalal al-Din Rumi)
    02:45
  • 2I See You
    (Traditional, Hans Adolph Brorson)
    05:08
  • 3Imagine The Fog Disappearing
    (Mathilda Montgomery-Cederhielm, Wilhelm Andreas Wexels)
    06:20
  • 4A Castle In Heaven
    (Traditional, Bernt Støylen)
    04:46
  • 5Journey Of Life
    (Traditional, Elias Blix)
    07:21
  • 6I Refuse
    (Tord Gustavsen, Kenneth Rexroth)
    05:38
  • 7What Was Said To The Rose / O Sacred Head
    (Tord Gustavsen, Jalal al-Din Rumi, Hans Leo Hassler)
    05:31
  • 8The Way You Play My Heart
    (Tord Gustavsen)
    03:01
  • 9Rull
    (Tord Gustavsen)
    03:02
  • 10The Source Of Now
    (Tord Gustavsen, Jalal al-Din Rumi)
    04:19
  • 11Sweet Melting
    (Traditional, Johann Ludwig Conrad Allendorf, Peder Jacobsen Hygom)
    03:20
  • 12Longing To Praise Thee
    (Traditional)
    04:26
  • 13Sweet Melting Afterglow
    (Jarle Vespestad, Simin Tander, Tord Gustavsen, Traditional, Johann Ludwig Conrad Allendorf, Peder Jacobsen Hygom)
    03:39
Tord Gustavsen, the lyrical and scholarly Oslo-born pianist, got big with a blend of pensive improv and Norwegian hymns, but lately he has moved closer to jazz. This album, however, finds him returning to simple songs with religious roots, and to collaboration with a remarkable singer […] in the tender-toned German-Afghan Simin Tander. Tander sings Norwegian traditionals and hymns in Pashto, and Beat icon Kenneth Rexroth’s stark renewal poem I Refuse and Persian sufi mystic Rumi’s writings in English, while Gustavsen gradually adds melodic embroidery, glimpsed grooves and electronics, with Jarle Vespestad’s fragile percussion the only other instrumental sound. [ ]the mixture of the instrumentalists’ distilled reflections with Tander’s palette of hummed tones, sighing note-bends and pristine inflections represents a beguiling new Gustavsen collaboration.
John Fordham, The Guardian
 
Seit vielen Jahren ein Meister der Entschleunigung, bevorzugt der Norweger kleine Besetzungen, ausgehend vom klassischen Piano-Trio […] Auf ‚What Was Said‘ ersetzt nun die deutsch-afghanische Vokalistin Simin Tander den Bassisten Mats Eilertsen. Ihre zart gesponnenen Versgeflechte schweben auf einem majestätisch in sich ruhenden Fundament aus Gustavsens Klavierakkorden und dem dezenten, gleichwohl stabilen Rhythmusteppich von Schlagzeuger Jarle Vespestad. Einfach wunderschön ist das anzuhören.
Matthias Inhoffen, Stereoplay
 
Ein Wunder an Ausdruckskraft und musikalischer Delikatessse.
Rolf Thomas, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
 
Their method - kind of Nordic meets Sufi – is initially puzzling but ultimately rewarding, with trad Norwegian hymns translated into the Afghan language of Pashto and sung with quiet intensity by Tander […] it all really takes off with the startingly beautiful ‘I Refuse’ halfway through. By then, you’re hooked.
Phil Johnson, Independent On Sunday
 
Was sich liest wie ein Gedankenkonstrukt, das in der Realität Gefahr läuft zu scheitern, entfaltet eine musikalische Atmosphäre, der man sich nur schwer entziehen kann. Simin Tanders Stimme besitzt ein Timbre wie geschaffen für die kehligen Pashto-Laute. Gemeinsam mit Gustavsen und Vespestad bildet sie ein Trio, das trotz über weite Strecken großer Zurückhaltung ein Höchstmaß an Intensität erreicht.
Thomas Loewner, SWR 2
 
Although instantly recognizable as a Tord Gustavsen album ‘What was said’ also represents something of a radical departure for the Norwegian. This is essentially a vocal record that contains more singing than any previous Gustavsen release and it also introduces an element of electronica to what has previously been an exclusively acoustic music. […] ‘What was said’ represents Gustavsen’s most personal and spiritual album to date, and in many respects it’s also his most ambitious. It’s further removed from conventional jazz than any of his previous albums and while it’s possible that the devotional nature of the project and the underlying air of religiosity may deter some listeners the undeniable beauty of the music should ensure that the majority of Gustavsen’s audience, a very sizeable one in jazz terms, will continue to walk with him on his continuing musical and spiritual journey.
Ian Mann, The Jazzmann
 
The trio presents a program of Norwegian church music, with lyrics either translated into Pashto (inspired by Sufi poetry) or adapted from the words of internationally acclaimed poet Rumi. The origins of this music almost don’t matter, however, due to the sheer beauty on display. Tander’s lovely voice could sing her grocery list and still convey spiritual yearning and uplift. Gustavsen provides backdrops of piano and subtle electronics that give her perfect support without being intrusive. The same could be said for Vespestad, who lays out as often as he weighs in, creating a near-ambient pulse that provides color more than propulsion. […] A lot of folks won’t understand the words being sung, but it doesn’t matter – the feeling is what’s important, and Gustavsen, Sander and Vespestad transfer it with honesty and grace.
Michael Toland, Blurt
 
However unorthodox all this cross-translation seems, Tander makes it sound completely natural. Her intimate, lyrical voice is equally at home in both languages, as well as singing wordless vocalise and improvising. Gustavson still plays the piano as his main instrument, but has augmented it with discreet electronics and occasional synthesizer bass, while Vespestad provides percussive textures or timekeeping as required. So the group is a true trio, not just a vocalist with accompanists. […] ‘What was said’ presents a quietly surprising vision of a new kind of musical fusion.
Mark Sullivan, All About Jazz
 
‚What was said‘ ist trotz, oder vielleicht gerade wegen aller zurückhaltenden Feinarbeit, Verlangsamung und Kontemplation ein extrem berührendes Album geworden, in dessen emotionalem Epizentrum Simin Tander ihre beachtliche Ausdrucksstärke voll zur Wirkung bringen kann. Fern jeglicher Exaltiertheit zieht sie einen unweigerlich in den Bann – gerade wenn sie nur noch zart flüstert oder haucht, beginnt es vor Intensität zu knistern. Ihr intimer Gesang gräbt sich tief in die Seele ein, auch wenn man die im sich überlagernden Grenzbereich von Christentum und Sufismus schwebenden Worte nicht versteht.
Peter Füssl, Kultur
 
Tander’s voice is haunting yet celestial, sometimes sounding indie and other times traditional. The songs such as ‘A Castle In Heaven’ and ‘Longing To Praise Thee’ have a monastic simplicity to them, while ‘What Was Said to the Rose/O Sacred Hart’ and ‘The Source of Now’ hover like the smoke from candles in the Narthex. Deep like a midnight service.
George W. Harris. Jazz weekly
 
Tord Gustavsen and his small ensemble of musicians have created something truly amazing with this album. But listeners are required to 'work' for the many aural pleasures it offers, this is not an obvious album even if its sound quality alone will be enough for many. To my ears Gustavsen has found a musical balance with What was said that suits his prodigious talent better than most of his recent work. It's a cinematic album dominated by female voice and, a first for Gustavsen, uses digital atmospherics and harmonies in the background.
Reuben Klein, The Ear
 
For this fascinating project Gustavsen has explored the potential meeting or Sufism and Christianity, arranging traditional Norwegian hymns translated into Pashto alongside settings or poems by Kenneth Rexroth and the Persian mystic poet Jalal al-Din Rumi, plus same instrumental duets that match the songs for beauty. From early in his career Gustavsen was associated with several respected Norwegian singers, including Silje Nergaard, Siri Gjaere, Kristin Asbjornsen and Live Maria Roggen, and this album continues the vocal thread with Tander, an Afghan-German singer whose voice exemplifies the haunting, meditative,  somewhat mystical mood of much of the mainstream of so-called Scandi-jazz. She is a perfect exponent for this cycle of sensitive settings.
Bany Witherden, Jazz Journal
Tord Gustavsen’s new trio project builds upon the subtle understanding of his long musical association with drummer Jarle Vespestad, introduces the entrancing German-Afghan vocalist Simin Tander, and, alongside new compositions and improvisations, explores the tradition of Norwegian church music in an untraditional manner. “Simin and I have been working with an Afghan poet,” Gustavsen explains, “translating and shaping a selection of hymns that I grew up with in Norway into Pashto.”
 
Born in Cologne to an Afghan journalist father and a German teacher, Simin Tander has been attracting attention on the European jazz scene, with innovative performances which find her moving between English and Pashto and invented languages of her own. Gustavsen: “I liked the sound of the Pashto language itself and coincidentally was encountering it at a time when I was becoming increasingly interested in Sufi poetry.”
 
So Tander also sings - in English -  the revelatory lyrics of Jalal al-Din Rumi (1207-73). Gustavsen sets the Rumi renderings of Coleman Barks, creative paraphrases in free verse which make the great poet of Konya seem like a literary ancestor to Walt Whitman. The lyrical reach of the album is rounded out with a setting of a poem by US writer Kenneth Rexroth (1905-82), who also counted Rumi amongst a vast range of influences, and was himself a pioneer in delivering verse to the accompaniment of jazz improvisers. In the sources that Tord Gustavsen has intuitively brought together for his programme in What was said there are connections being made at a number of levels, as a sense of extended dialogue opens up, and poets talk to each other across the centuries…
 
Outside the limits of language and as interplay of sounds, the combination of the intimacy of Tander’s voice, Gustavsen’s melodically inventive piano and discreet electronics, and Vespestad’s patient, textural drumming has an emotional persuasiveness of its own. “Of course to me it’s a dual intention. This is a devotional project, and the way in which the words transcend the boundaries between forms and traditions is important for me. But it’s also fully OK to approach it as a pure musical experience. The sounds have texture and content. For any anyone who feels invited to dive deeper, the lyrics and translations are there, but this is not the kind of music where you have to read in order to listen.”
 
In the trio, singer Simin Tander rises to the challenge, as Gustavsen says, of being “both a soloistic interpreter of melody and an ensemble member, singing accompanying motifs, and contributing to improvisations in which the three of us are equals in terms of sharing ideas. She has a unique way of improvising, finding sounds that really work, staying with them, developing them very gradually. She has a discipline that really appeals to me and Jarle.”
 
Drummer Jarle Vespestad has been an important part of Tord’s music throughout his ECM history, and plays on all of his albums for the label. Over the last decade and more Jarle and Tord had occasionally played duo pieces as part of group performances as well as many piano and drum interludes. The extent of their resourcefulness was put to the test in 2014 when a Paris release concert for Extended Circle had to be played as a duo show after saxophonist Tore Brunborg and bassist Mats Eilertsen were stranded in Northern Norway by a plane cancellation. This was initially daunting since the concert was broadcast live on French radio: “We were really thrown into it, but it proved to be such a cool experience. It felt like there was a whole orchestra there. The context opened up the lower part of the drum kit in a new way. Jarle, with his extreme ability to be grounded, was really making all the dark sounds and textures of the drums shine. While we were playing I was thinking: ‘I want to do this on an album!’, because it was so rich.”
 
In the last year and a half Tord Gustavsen – somewhat to his surprise – has expanded his own textural range with the addition of electronics, using a Moog system which allows him to trigger computer based sounds and samples from the acoustic piano. On some pieces, he also uses a bass synthesizer. Throughout the album electronics are frequently almost a subliminal presence, felt as much as heard, but new sound-colour hybrids blossom as Gustavsen combines, for instance “the warmth and the sustain of a synth pad with the minimalism of a single piano line in the top,” or casts a euphonic halo around a piece, deepening an atmosphere. Restraint has always been a hallmark of Tord’s acoustic piano playing and a similar rigour is applied in his use of electronics. “The acoustic piano is a universe of exploration, and I’ll never be through with that journey, but the electronics are speaking to me much more than I could have anticipated. In fact, using them has influenced the acoustic piano playing, too. It’s as if I’m approaching the piano from a slightly different angle now. This too has been very fruitful.”
 
What was said was recorded at Oslo’s Rainbow Studio in April 2015, and produced by Manfred Eicher.
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